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	<title>Comments on: Learn Spanish and Chinese with the iPhone</title>
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	<description>Learning on Your terms</description>
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		<title>By: matthew beard</title>
		<link>http://praxislanguage.com/2007/06/29/learn-spanish-and-chinese-with-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-10146</link>
		<dc:creator>matthew beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is there any way I can get this free for my mogul?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there any way I can get this free for my mogul?</p>
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		<title>By: New and Used Book Reviews</title>
		<link>http://praxislanguage.com/2007/06/29/learn-spanish-and-chinese-with-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-10145</link>
		<dc:creator>New and Used Book Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;New and Used Book Reviews...&lt;/strong&gt;

I couldn't understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>New and Used Book Reviews&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil in Tianjin</title>
		<link>http://praxislanguage.com/2007/06/29/learn-spanish-and-chinese-with-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-10144</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil in Tianjin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 05:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another variant. Using a China Mobile Motorola SLVR (L7) and its preloaded Monternet browser, all 3rd tone pin yin letters, with the exception of e, show up as black boxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another variant. Using a China Mobile Motorola SLVR (L7) and its preloaded Monternet browser, all 3rd tone pin yin letters, with the exception of e, show up as black boxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Bazza 白锐</title>
		<link>http://praxislanguage.com/2007/06/29/learn-spanish-and-chinese-with-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-10143</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazza 白锐</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's probably not possible, but it would also be very cool if it had dialogue audio clips, or just one clip of the whole dialogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probably not possible, but it would also be very cool if it had dialogue audio clips, or just one clip of the whole dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Bazza 白锐</title>
		<link>http://praxislanguage.com/2007/06/29/learn-spanish-and-chinese-with-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-10142</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazza 白锐</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3rd tones seem to work ok now. :)

Would you be able to add a "Jump to end" link on the discussions pages? If there's about 100 comments and you just want to read the latest ones it can take a while to scroll to the bottom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3rd tones seem to work ok now. <img src='http://praxislanguage.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Would you be able to add a &#8220;Jump to end&#8221; link on the discussions pages? If there&#8217;s about 100 comments and you just want to read the latest ones it can take a while to scroll to the bottom.</p>
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		<title>By: Bazza 白锐</title>
		<link>http://praxislanguage.com/2007/06/29/learn-spanish-and-chinese-with-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-10141</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazza 白锐</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 12:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My lessons list on the mobile site now shows just the last 5 lessons is that right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My lessons list on the mobile site now shows just the last 5 lessons is that right?</p>
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		<title>By: goulnik (郭力毅)</title>
		<link>http://praxislanguage.com/2007/06/29/learn-spanish-and-chinese-with-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-10140</link>
		<dc:creator>goulnik (郭力毅)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 04:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>question to Hank, is there going to be a mobile version of this blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>question to Hank, is there going to be a mobile version of this blog?</p>
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		<title>By: goulnik (郭力毅)</title>
		<link>http://praxislanguage.com/2007/06/29/learn-spanish-and-chinese-with-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-10139</link>
		<dc:creator>goulnik (郭力毅)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>makes sense, though my HTC phone (WM5) with a good browser (Opera) does all of this too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>makes sense, though my HTC phone (WM5) with a good browser (Opera) does all of this too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton Donley</title>
		<link>http://praxislanguage.com/2007/06/29/learn-spanish-and-chinese-with-the-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-10138</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton Donley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually use Pleco still on a TX now rather than my Treo, but it's really the only thing I use on the Palm.

Why switch?

1. Better over-the-air podcasts (I used QuickNews plus PocketTunes or Kinoma, but they were all buggy to some degree - I found Quicknews to be the worst offender, though I think a lot of it was just the Palm OS that they were fighting with).

2. Web browser - The Treo web browser barely works. Add in CJKOS not supporting Unicode/UTF-8 and the Chinese web browsing experience is miserable. The iPhone has (from a browsing standpoint) the best Chinese experience possible. I mean, the entire FULL Chinesepod site renders completely and if I'm on WiFi at an airport or such, it does so about as fast as my desktop. It's missing a Chinese IME at the moment, but figure it's just a matter of time and most of the sites I'd want an IME wouldn't even load on my Palm anyway. For example, on the Treo 700p with CJKOS enabled I couldn't even get Google to load most of the time!

3. PDF Transcripts that include Chinese read nicely, as do Word documents. No extra plugins and lack of stability. No ulti-step processes of converting or downloading with Web/Blazer and opening with another app, etc..

So basically the Palm works well as a dictionary. The iPhone worked better for everything else. When in China, I tend to use an unlocked Nokia phone for the Q9 support. I think Nokia actually makes a better phone in many cases, but I already knew that they didn't support Pleco either, so it didn't make much difference.

So there you have it. :-)

Clayton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually use Pleco still on a TX now rather than my Treo, but it&#8217;s really the only thing I use on the Palm.</p>
<p>Why switch?</p>
<p>1. Better over-the-air podcasts (I used QuickNews plus PocketTunes or Kinoma, but they were all buggy to some degree - I found Quicknews to be the worst offender, though I think a lot of it was just the Palm OS that they were fighting with).</p>
<p>2. Web browser - The Treo web browser barely works. Add in CJKOS not supporting Unicode/UTF-8 and the Chinese web browsing experience is miserable. The iPhone has (from a browsing standpoint) the best Chinese experience possible. I mean, the entire FULL Chinesepod site renders completely and if I&#8217;m on WiFi at an airport or such, it does so about as fast as my desktop. It&#8217;s missing a Chinese IME at the moment, but figure it&#8217;s just a matter of time and most of the sites I&#8217;d want an IME wouldn&#8217;t even load on my Palm anyway. For example, on the Treo 700p with CJKOS enabled I couldn&#8217;t even get Google to load most of the time!</p>
<p>3. PDF Transcripts that include Chinese read nicely, as do Word documents. No extra plugins and lack of stability. No ulti-step processes of converting or downloading with Web/Blazer and opening with another app, etc..</p>
<p>So basically the Palm works well as a dictionary. The iPhone worked better for everything else. When in China, I tend to use an unlocked Nokia phone for the Q9 support. I think Nokia actually makes a better phone in many cases, but I already knew that they didn&#8217;t support Pleco either, so it didn&#8217;t make much difference.</p>
<p>So there you have it. <img src='http://praxislanguage.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Clayton</p>
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		<title>By: goulnik (郭力毅)</title>
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		<dc:creator>goulnik (郭力毅)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 08:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clayton Donley,  what made you decide to swirch to the iPod, I mean, you knew you would no longer be able to use PlecoDict and it's not just the flashcards, but also handwriting recognition, the NWP dictionary etc. I for one couldn't do without</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clayton Donley,  what made you decide to swirch to the iPod, I mean, you knew you would no longer be able to use PlecoDict and it&#8217;s not just the flashcards, but also handwriting recognition, the NWP dictionary etc. I for one couldn&#8217;t do without</p>
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