I case you haven’t seen it, the second installment of ‘Qing Wen’ was released yesterday. Just go to the Connect section and you’ll see it. (The first one is here.) In this show I rap with Amber and Aggie on the subject of verb reduplication, that tendency amongst Chinese verbs to reduplicate for effect, such as with kan kan, for example. We look at when and how to use them, as well as to what effect.
Qing Wen does not purport to be exhaustive or thoroughly analytical. We choose items that we think are interesting and informative. The nature of the podcast medium demands that we keep the chat relatively simple. What you get is accurate, but there may be exceptions or aspects we choose not to analyze. (For more depth or specifics you can go to the lesson comments or here on the blog to get a discussion going. Feel free to join in.)
[Btw, reduplication occurs not just with verbs, but also with adjectives, xiaoxiao de meaning small, and with nouns, baobao, meaning infant, for example. Those might be the topic of another Qing Wen.]
Ken Carroll
中文 Chinese
Kim Says:
June 16th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
ok, lovely that you have a new show but qing wen xin TSS zai nar?
f1b1 Says:
June 16th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Why is it called reduplication and not duplication?
Ken Carroll Says:
June 16th, 2007 at 11:17 pm
f1b,
I don’t know why it’s called reduplication, but that’s the term. It sounds like a tautology. If anyone knows a better one, I’d be happy to adopt it.
Ken Carroll
excuter Says:
June 16th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
你好 Ken Carroll,
I (having a free account) tryed several times to listen to it but it seems I´ve got to upgrade to be able to listen to it ´cause it gives me the option to upgrade or to go back.
(insert sad voice here)That keeps me off listening.
James Theron Says:
June 16th, 2007 at 11:46 pm
Speaking of linguistic terms. Of the one’s I’ve come across, “reduplication” is fairly straight forward. Fortunately, CP hasn’t gone this route.
From my first Chinese textbook many years ago, Elementry Chinese Readers 1, chapter 1 covers some of the pinyin initial sounds. For the ‘d’ the description is “d is an alveolar unaspirated voiceless plosive.” For ‘f’, “f is a labio-dental voiceless fricative.” Huh? We have it pretty good with CP.
Lantian Says:
June 17th, 2007 at 12:08 am
Hi James, ‘labio-dental’, can you say that on t.v? ;p
Liz Says:
June 17th, 2007 at 1:05 am
“Just go to the Connect section”…..but how….where is the Connect section….why can’t we have a straightforward hyperlink?
I was a premium subscriber but it has lapsed - no-one reminded me to pay up and since no-one contacted me I figured they weren’t that bothered if they had my custom or not.
And with the rebranding I find it much harder to navigate….and now the Saturday Show has gone as well.
At the moment, I am not going to review my subscription as I’m not as convinced as I used to be that Cpod is the way forward.
AZERDocMom 易新 Says:
June 17th, 2007 at 2:22 am
Ken
I am saddened and somewhat disappointed by the the unavailability of Qing Wen to free subscribers, but from the business standpoint, I understand and, in fact, applaud this decision. Now I have to seriously consider upgrading. I hope you don’t take away Movie Madness as well
Kim Says:
June 17th, 2007 at 7:23 am
I guess that is a “no” for new The Saturday Shows.
f1b1 Says:
June 17th, 2007 at 11:38 am
No, that’s the term alright, but I can’t find out why they called it that.
hanyu_xuesheng Says:
June 17th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
“Just go to the Connect section”
What was the hyperlink invented for?
With my account, “Qing Wen” seems unavailable.
*SAD*
Ken Carroll Says:
June 17th, 2007 at 11:31 pm
Hanyu_xuesheng,
‘What was the hyperlink invented for?’
In my book, snotty, condescension doesn’t deserve a respectful reply.
Ken Carroll
hanyu_xuesheng Says:
June 18th, 2007 at 5:24 am
Ken,
I (and other CP users) would very much appreciate if you could clarify which parts of CP are free, which are in the basic account, etc.
In your above post, you tell us about the second installment of ‘Qing Wen’, but didnt mention what type of account is needed to have access…
It’s annoying to see the “upgrade page” several times per day.
If it’s not free, why are you not explicitly telling this?
Brendan Says:
June 18th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
From a conversation with David:
Brendan O’Kane says (16:25):
“Qing Wen?”
I thought you guys were committed to proper usage of Pinyin!
David says (16:26):
well
you have to make accomodations for style
Brendan O’Kane says (16:26):
Don’t you mean “Sty Le?”
David says (16:26):
yes
Brendan O’Kane says (16:26):
There are LAWS, you know!
LAWS.
Brendan O’Kane says (16:27):
(Well. Plans. Or 方案, as it were.)
(That’s fang’an, by the way, not Fang An.)
Don’t make me write a blog post about you!
David says (16:29):
the immutable laws of pinyin
David says (16:30):
are not as immutable as they might seem
Brendan O’Kane says (16:30):
God’s laws are not immutable, David.
David says (16:30):
PINYIN is a law of man!
a law of weak men, with proclivities towards systemization
Brendan O’Kane says (16:30):
All I’m saying is, respect proper word boundaries or prepare for an eternity amidst the fire that burns, but does not consume.
Srsly.
David says (16:30):
Qing Wen is a podcast of the Gods
Brendan O’Kane says (16:31):
I’m blogging all of this.
siyi Says:
June 18th, 2007 at 11:45 pm
Ken, necessarily, works for those who are paying customers. The new interface is clearly intended to increase those ranks. I wish I had time to go Premium right now, when I do, I will likely not have time to use all of what is available.
Meanwhile, I hear the masses calling for access to more.
The qingwen column and the news and features columns are a way to build the community and bring in more paid learners.
Where does one find the new “news and features” links?
Open up our eyes,
Siyi
Auntie Says:
June 19th, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Dear Siyi,
And I, as a mere Basic Subscriber, am not a “paying customer”?
Cheers,
Auntie
Kim Says:
June 25th, 2007 at 5:26 am
I can see why Aric left. All I said was good you had another show but asked where the saturday show was and you ignored me. Then you have the nerve to tell ME that I snotty and condescending. So much for all the word of mouth publicity I had been giving. Thanks for leaving me with a bad taste.