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	<title>Comments on: Power to the people</title>
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	<description>Learning on Your Terms</description>
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		<title>By: Here Comes Everybody &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FrenchPod is a PLS</title>
		<link>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-77567</link>
		<dc:creator>Here Comes Everybody &#187; Blog Archive &#187; FrenchPod is a PLS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on your terms means having as much choice in the learning decisions as possible. As I wrote in a previous post: The act of formulating your own goals, choosing your own inputs, etc, helps you focus and commit [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] on your terms means having as much choice in the learning decisions as possible. As I wrote in a previous post: The act of formulating your own goals, choosing your own inputs, etc, helps you focus and commit [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: goulnik (郭力毅)</title>
		<link>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator>goulnik (郭力毅)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 10:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-343</guid>
		<description>I was about to answer &lt;i&gt;Learning on your terms&lt;/i&gt; on the ChinesePod blog but it seems to be gone, so here's my take :

MANY - levels and topics to choose from, in any order

MIXED - different media, audio, phone, text, vocab and others as usual (almost there). re-arranging my way, doing my own mashups (at stretch). snippits of contents found on the Chinese web, cartoons, whatever (missing)

MOBILE - podcasts are the flagship, telepractice an excellent fit, but others unexplored (web content not there, requires internet connection, not suited to smartphone use)

MALLEABLE - i.e. changing the mix over time. I started with podcasts 2-3 levels, then explored expansion stuff, diffferent 2-3 levels, then switched to doing my own full transcripts, 3 levels. Now back to  expansion, 5 levels, combined with tele-practice. My needs change over time, I discover new strategies, evolves with my progress

MAGIC - get surprises and excitement, not under my control. uncertainty is important, me planning / slicing everything would be boring to death.

This is in no particular order, categories not mutually exclusive. Bottom line, "&lt;i&gt;Everything is Miscellaneous&lt;/i&gt;"... and yes, this concept does make sense to me, it's a good motto and I can relate to it.

As to tele-practice, I've been at it for almost 3 weeks, the mix being intermediate 2/5 upper 3/5 and I'm indeed very happy. The 10-12 minutes are well handled, have started to unlock my ability to speak, do require that I prepare for at least 1 hour though I normally spend a lot more. 
This started under the 8-weeks paradigm, plan was agreed based on my interests, I guess it could easily evolve over time. Time has shifted a few times, and this certainly is location independent, fits extremely well with my business travels, no lesson skipped as yet but rescheduling no issue.
Flexibility in the discussion too, there obviously is a script but also a human teacher at the other end (thx Vera ;-) with her mood, getting back to the script if required but always flexible to address questions, burning issues, occasionaly going back to previous topics etc.
Clearly this is capitalizing on the podcasts, toolkits and data investment but for me it's also been very beneficial. 10 minutes is a very short time indeed, but very focused and intense (at my end anyway) as no time can be wasted. There is the added difficulty of noisy phone lines, analog anyway, lacking digital quality which can be a bonus once you get over it.  I never had any lack of motivation but this certainly ensures I don't go astray, and that's frankly something I'm looking forward to though again there is some pressure as preparation is key.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about to answer <i>Learning on your terms</i> on the ChinesePod blog but it seems to be gone, so here&#8217;s my take :</p>
<p>MANY - levels and topics to choose from, in any order</p>
<p>MIXED - different media, audio, phone, text, vocab and others as usual (almost there). re-arranging my way, doing my own mashups (at stretch). snippits of contents found on the Chinese web, cartoons, whatever (missing)</p>
<p>MOBILE - podcasts are the flagship, telepractice an excellent fit, but others unexplored (web content not there, requires internet connection, not suited to smartphone use)</p>
<p>MALLEABLE - i.e. changing the mix over time. I started with podcasts 2-3 levels, then explored expansion stuff, diffferent 2-3 levels, then switched to doing my own full transcripts, 3 levels. Now back to  expansion, 5 levels, combined with tele-practice. My needs change over time, I discover new strategies, evolves with my progress</p>
<p>MAGIC - get surprises and excitement, not under my control. uncertainty is important, me planning / slicing everything would be boring to death.</p>
<p>This is in no particular order, categories not mutually exclusive. Bottom line, &#8220;<i>Everything is Miscellaneous</i>&#8220;&#8230; and yes, this concept does make sense to me, it&#8217;s a good motto and I can relate to it.</p>
<p>As to tele-practice, I&#8217;ve been at it for almost 3 weeks, the mix being intermediate 2/5 upper 3/5 and I&#8217;m indeed very happy. The 10-12 minutes are well handled, have started to unlock my ability to speak, do require that I prepare for at least 1 hour though I normally spend a lot more.<br />
This started under the 8-weeks paradigm, plan was agreed based on my interests, I guess it could easily evolve over time. Time has shifted a few times, and this certainly is location independent, fits extremely well with my business travels, no lesson skipped as yet but rescheduling no issue.<br />
Flexibility in the discussion too, there obviously is a script but also a human teacher at the other end (thx Vera <img src='http://blog.praxislanguage.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> with her mood, getting back to the script if required but always flexible to address questions, burning issues, occasionaly going back to previous topics etc.<br />
Clearly this is capitalizing on the podcasts, toolkits and data investment but for me it&#8217;s also been very beneficial. 10 minutes is a very short time indeed, but very focused and intense (at my end anyway) as no time can be wasted. There is the added difficulty of noisy phone lines, analog anyway, lacking digital quality which can be a bonus once you get over it.  I never had any lack of motivation but this certainly ensures I don&#8217;t go astray, and that&#8217;s frankly something I&#8217;m looking forward to though again there is some pressure as preparation is key.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Carroll</title>
		<link>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-339</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 09:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-339</guid>
		<description>Lantian,

As a voracious learner it seems you want it all, and then some! The language I'm talking about is specific to a spoken lesson and it is based on actual recordings. Let me think about this for a while. In the meantime, Power to the Telepractice Plan People!

Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lantian,</p>
<p>As a voracious learner it seems you want it all, and then some! The language I&#8217;m talking about is specific to a spoken lesson and it is based on actual recordings. Let me think about this for a while. In the meantime, Power to the Telepractice Plan People!</p>
<p>Ken</p>
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		<title>By: Lantian</title>
		<link>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-338</link>
		<dc:creator>Lantian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 09:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-338</guid>
		<description>'CLASSROOM LANGUAGE' - Why haven't you put that 'language list' into a few podcasts, or make them generally available? It would probably help with easing the oft-spoken refrain of 'the gap's too big,' 'to small,''talk more in Chinese,' 'talk less in Chinese...' 

This kind of language list might even help many posters to start posting in Chinese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;CLASSROOM LANGUAGE&#8217; - Why haven&#8217;t you put that &#8216;language list&#8217; into a few podcasts, or make them generally available? It would probably help with easing the oft-spoken refrain of &#8216;the gap&#8217;s too big,&#8217; &#8216;to small,&#8221;talk more in Chinese,&#8217; &#8216;talk less in Chinese&#8230;&#8217; </p>
<p>This kind of language list might even help many posters to start posting in Chinese.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Carroll</title>
		<link>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 03:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-335</guid>
		<description>Michael,

The phone practice has to strike a balance. I would not allow our counselors to just 'go with the flow' on that one. Just as we try to embed our knowledge into the instructional design of the lessons and the site generally, we have to do the same with the phone lessons. In a 10 minute session there are limited options. We've identified them and trained the counselors to work with them. (I got back to my old teacher trainer days in Taipei.)

For example, I have discouraged them from over-emphasizing pronunciation to concentrate on communicating as much as possible. We created lists of 'classroom language' for each level that subscribers receive (pdf, mp3) in advance. The focus in the phone lesson is it to communicate in Chinesse, however simple the exchange may be.

Ken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>The phone practice has to strike a balance. I would not allow our counselors to just &#8216;go with the flow&#8217; on that one. Just as we try to embed our knowledge into the instructional design of the lessons and the site generally, we have to do the same with the phone lessons. In a 10 minute session there are limited options. We&#8217;ve identified them and trained the counselors to work with them. (I got back to my old teacher trainer days in Taipei.)</p>
<p>For example, I have discouraged them from over-emphasizing pronunciation to concentrate on communicating as much as possible. We created lists of &#8216;classroom language&#8217; for each level that subscribers receive (pdf, mp3) in advance. The focus in the phone lesson is it to communicate in Chinesse, however simple the exchange may be.</p>
<p>Ken</p>
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		<title>By: What does &#8216;learning on your terms&#8217; really mean? at The ChinesePod Blog with Ken Carroll</title>
		<link>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>What does &#8216;learning on your terms&#8217; really mean? at The ChinesePod Blog with Ken Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 12:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-330</guid>
		<description>[...] We&#8217;ve been busy over at Praxis Language, talking about, amongst other things, the meaning behind the slogan Learning on your terms. Link. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] We&#8217;ve been busy over at Praxis Language, talking about, amongst other things, the meaning behind the slogan Learning on your terms. Link. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Butler</title>
		<link>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 10:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.praxislanguage.com/2007/05/08/power-to-the-people/#comment-329</guid>
		<description>Ken,

I'm beginning to feel a bit like the proverbial foil. I agree with a lot of what you say and you know that I'm a real advocate of blended learning. In my most radical conception, I say keep the teacher in the loop and eliminate the school. 

Let me quote you from above:

The act of formulating your own goals, choosing your own inputs, etc, helps you focus and commit to your course of study.

I'm curious if this philosophy is at the cornerstone of your 10-minute daily lesson which Frank had so many good things to say about. Throughout this process, does the teacher generally stay in control of the tasks and the pace or the student? Would you say that (costs aside- I hear ya Hank) that this 10 minutes makes the learning experience more effective and to what degree? 


I'm very cautious talking about teachers as if they existed independent of schools (or training companies). I'm very interested in discussions that understand that to critically evaluate teachers without also a keen understand of the institutional context they are teaching in is a serious error. 

BTW, IMHO, your slogan, Learning on your terms, is as good as it gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m beginning to feel a bit like the proverbial foil. I agree with a lot of what you say and you know that I&#8217;m a real advocate of blended learning. In my most radical conception, I say keep the teacher in the loop and eliminate the school. </p>
<p>Let me quote you from above:</p>
<p>The act of formulating your own goals, choosing your own inputs, etc, helps you focus and commit to your course of study.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious if this philosophy is at the cornerstone of your 10-minute daily lesson which Frank had so many good things to say about. Throughout this process, does the teacher generally stay in control of the tasks and the pace or the student? Would you say that (costs aside- I hear ya Hank) that this 10 minutes makes the learning experience more effective and to what degree? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m very cautious talking about teachers as if they existed independent of schools (or training companies). I&#8217;m very interested in discussions that understand that to critically evaluate teachers without also a keen understand of the institutional context they are teaching in is a serious error. </p>
<p>BTW, IMHO, your slogan, Learning on your terms, is as good as it gets.</p>
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